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Old 03-17-2006, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New universe theory?

So theres been a new theory made about how the universe was come to be made. I like it because i think the 'Big bang theory' was a little sketchy. (The theory that the universe just came from one little condensed ball and then exploded into the universe.)

So the theory is that our universe is growing (nothing new) but that the planets are growing. From within. This man says that he thinks cosmic rays (which can make matter). He thinks that this is making the planets and all the moons grow. He also thinks the Sun is growing. He thinks this for ALL the planets in the universe.

Cant remember the whole thing (heard it on the radio late last night) But he said that there was only hydrogen at first and it started a spin effect. He then says that the hydrogen some how formed a sun. (He explained it in good detail but i cant remember all the terms and shit he used.) So under all this heat you have all this hydrogen, and ofcourse hydrogen forms helium 3. So when the sun gets big its start shooting out shit from the sides. ( Its still doing this). So he thinks that all this heated up helium 3 and hydrogen bonded to make Iron. Which started shaping planets.

He claims that the evidence for this can be found on pluto. He says earth would have been hit with 1000's of meteors that could wipe out the earth by now accept pluto keeps growing bigger than earth and acts as a shield for big meteors that fly by on the asteroid belt.
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Old 03-17-2006, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New universe theory?

Wow, that actually makes alot of sense, even tho u really didnt explain it in detail i get what ur tryin to say.
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Old 03-17-2006, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes im sorry, this guy had college and university background in this type of shit. Not to mention i listened to it half awake at about 4 in the morning. I thought it was very interesting though.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He claims that the evidence for this can be found on pluto. He says earth would have been hit with 1000's of meteors that could wipe out the earth by now accept pluto keeps growing bigger than earth and acts as a shield for big meteors that fly by on the asteroid belt.
Wow I just have to say WTF? That is the craziest thing I've ever heard... How the Fuck could Pluto keep growing bigger than Earth... I need an OZ or 2 of what that guy way smoking....
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Re: New universe theory?

Sorry bro, but the minute someone tells me the big bang theory is sketch I just stop listening, cuz you may as well be dismissing every other fundamental theory of existence and laws of physics at the same time *unless someone who brings up a new theory can prove suitable compensation for all these theories via a new creation theory, and i doubt we'll be seeing that kind of brain around for a while*.. and I'm certainly not gonna believe that EVERYTHING is bullshit lol
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does anyone believe in God?
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this doesnt diprove the big bang, quite the opposite in my view. itsa just another version of it. because you would need an excessive amount of force to create a sun so what if the big bang was a big implosion creating this sun and from there spewing matter out into the universe in its base elements which all collided and whatnot to create the universe today.
all we can do tho from our pebble in the sea is theorise and speculate
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Re: New universe theory?

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This isnt about god. Its science.
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Re: New universe theory?

N0thing, you are right.

But this guy covered not jsut this but almost everything the big bang theory explains. Tectonic plates, volcanos, he even explains these type of stretch marks that are found at the bottom of the ocean. Something scientists cannot explain.

My problem is where the fuck did this little ball of condensed matter come from? (in the Big Bang Theory)

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/03/16.html

N0thing im sure youve heard the theory of how the continents drifted apart due to tectonic plates. But take a look at this.

http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/wmv/coa...1606_earth.asx

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at the middle of every galaxy, theres a black hole.
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Re: New universe theory?

This is an incredibly interesting thread. The new theory does seem to make a lot sense and logical connections to ideas that have already been theorized
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Re: New universe theory?

Yah and it completely explains the tectonic plates theory that they moved the continents. I thought it was bullshit.
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Re: New universe theory?

It is believed that most galactic cosmic rays derive their energy from supernova explosions, which occur approximately once every 50 years in our Galaxy. To maintain the observed intensity of cosmic rays over millions of years requires that a few percent of the more than 1051 ergs released in a typical supernova explosion be converted to cosmic rays. There is considerable evidence that cosmic rays are accelerated as the shock waves from these explosions travel through the surrounding interstellar gas. The energy contributed to the Galaxy by cosmic rays (about 1 eV per cm3) is about equal to that contained in galactic magnetic fields, and in the thermal energy of the gas that pervades the space between the stars.

Very High Energy Cosmic Rays: When high energy cosmic rays undergo collisions with atoms of the upper atmosphere, they produce a cascade of "secondary" particles that shower down through the atmosphere to the Earth's surface. Secondary cosmic rays include pions (which quickly decay to produce muons, neutrinos and gamma rays), as well as electrons and positrons produced by muon decay and gamma ray interactions with atmospheric atoms. The number of particles reaching the Earth's surface is related to the energy of the cosmic ray that struck the upper atmosphere. Cosmic rays with energies beyond 1014 eV are studied with large "air shower" arrays of detectors distributed over many square kilometers that sample the particles produced. The frequency of air showers ranges from about 100 per m2 per year for energies >1015 eV to only about 1 per km2 per century for energies beyond 1020 eV. Cosmic ray interaction products such as neutrinos are also studied by large detectors placed deep in underground mines or under water.

Cosmic Rays in the Solar System: Just as cosmic rays are deflected by the magnetic fields in interstellar space, they are also affected by the interplanetary magnetic field embedded in the solar wind (the plasma of ions and electrons blowing from the solar corona at about 400 km/sec), and therefore have difficulty reaching the inner solar system. Spacecraft venturing out towards the boundary of the solar system they have found that the intensity of galactic comic rays increases with distance from the Sun. As solar activity varies over the 11 year solar cycle the intensity of cosmic rays at Earth also varies, in anti-correlation with the sunspot number.

The Sun is also a sporadic source of cosmic ray nuclei and electrons that are accelerated by shock waves traveling through the corona, and by magnetic energy released in solar flares. During such occurrences the intensity of energetic particles in space can increase by a factor of 102to 106 for hours to days. Such solar particle events are much more frequent during the active phase of the solar cycle. The maximum energy reached in solar particle events is typically 10 to 100 MeV, occasionally reaching 1 GeV (roughly once a year) to 10 GeV (roughly once a decade). Solar energetic particles can be used to measure the elemental and isotopic composition of the Sun, thereby complementing spectroscopic studies of solar material.

A third component of cosmic rays, comprised of only those elements that are difficult to ionize, including He, N, O, Ne, and Ar, was given the name "anomalous cosmic rays" because of its unusual composition. Anomalous cosmic rays originate from electrically-neutral interstellar particles that have entered the solar system unaffected by the magnetic field of the solar wind, been ionized, and then accelerated at the shock wave formed when the solar wind slows as a result of plowing into the interstellar gas, presently thought to occur somewhere between 75 and 100 AU from the Sun (one AU is the distance from the Sun to the Earth). Thus, it is possible that the Voyager 1 spacecraft, which should reach 100 AU by 2007, will have the opportunity to observe an example of cosmic ray acceleration directly.
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Re: New universe theory?

I watched a bbc documentary not too long ago, talking about a breakthrough from march of 2k5. About 'supermassive blackholes'. Talking about dorment(ours and many others) and active blackholes throughout the sum of 100+ other galaxies. That they can become active at any time. Was some eery stuff.
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It's all about string theory. It all goes back to quantum mechanics...


Here's a small excerpt from a little website:

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6151
After nearly 30 years of arguing that a black hole destroys everything that falls into it, Stephen Hawking is saying he was wrong. It seems that black holes may after all allow information within them to escape. Hawking will present his latest finding at a conference in Ireland next week.

The about-turn might cost Hawking, a physicist at the University of Cambridge, an encyclopaedia because of a bet he made in 1997. More importantly, it might solve one of the long-standing puzzles in modern physics, known as the black hole information paradox.

It was Hawking's own work that created the paradox. In 1976, he calculated that once a black hole forms, it starts losing mass by radiating energy. This "Hawking radiation" contains no information about the matter inside the black hole and once the black hole evaporates, all information is lost.

But this conflicts with the laws of quantum physics, which say that such information can never be completely wiped out. Hawking's argument was that the intense gravitational fields of black holes somehow unravel the laws of quantum physics.

Other physicists have tried to chip away at this paradox. Earlier in 2004, Samir Mathur of Ohio State University in Columbus and his colleagues showed that if a black hole is modelled according to string theory - in which the universe is made of tiny, vibrating strings rather than point-like particles - then the black hole becomes a giant tangle of strings.


Here's a few topics for you to look at, if you are interested:
Quantum Mechanics, String duality theory, Quark-gluon Plasmas, M-theory,non-perturbative quantum field theory, supergravity theory, string field theory, black hole physics.

They are getting closer. If only the scientific community would listen to my input back in 1997..It's funny, what once was crazy is now vogue....its a shame really... to scoff at my ideas... At least they are on the right track .


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Yeah i watched this thing on string theory before, its pretty crazy, if its right.
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